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Thursday, December 01, 2005

Audio post- Vedham nee iniya naadham nee



Felt like singing this wonderful KJY-IR song which came in the early years of IR. Have been singing a lot of SPB stuff these days and felt like my maanaseega gurunaathar was saying "dEi, enna en paattellaam practice paNradhilliya ?" (assume JKB or maarththaaNdam piLLaivaaL here). So..


It is often said that KJY has a bad tamil pronunication. Though it is true that he sang therukkOvilE Odivaa, it is unfair to single him out as a person with pathetic tamil pronunication espcially when he has rendered 90 % of the tamil songs with clear pronunciation. In fact, there are many songs which challenge even the best singers in terms of pronunications - two examples are "vEdham nee" from kOvilpuRa and "gangaikkarai mannadi". Vedham nee is also paced at a breakneck speed. Just look at these lyrics:


வேதம் நீ..இனிய நாதம் நீ (2)
நிலவு நீ பகலும் நீ..அடிமை நான் தினமும் ஓதும்
வேதம் நீ..இனிய நாதம் நீ (2)
வேதம் நீ..இனிய நாதம் நீ (2)

கருணை மேவும் பூவிழிப்பார்வையில்
கவிதை இன்பம் காட்டுகிறாய் (2)
இளைய தென்றல் காற்றினிலே..ஏ...
இளைய தென்றல் காற்றினிலே
இனிய சந்தப் பாட்டினிலே
இளைய தென்றல் காற்றினிலே
இனிய சந்தப் பாட்டினிலே
எதிலும் உந்தன் நாதங்களே
நினைத்த பொருள் தரும் நிரந்தர சுகம் தரும்

(வேதம் நீ..)

அண்டம் பகிரண்டம் உனை அண்டும் படி வந்தாய் (2)
தண்டை ஒலி ஜதி தருமோ கமல பாதம் சதிரிடுமோ(2)
மனமும் விழியும் தினமும் எழுதும் அழகே
மலையும் கடலும் நதியும் அறியும் வடிவே
நெஞ்சம் இது தஞ்சம் என உனைத் தினம் நினைத்தது
நித்தம் ஒரு புத்தம் புது இசைத் தமிழ் வடித்தது
ஒருமுறை தரிசனமும் தருக இசையில் உனது இதயம் இசையும்
மனம் குணம் அறிந்தவள்
குழலது சரியுது சரியுது
குறுநகை விரியுது விரியுது
விழிக்கருணை மழை அதில் நனைய வரும் ஒரு மனம் பரவும்

(வேதம் நீ..)


Try saying these lines fast (dont have to sing):

அண்டம் பகிரண்டம் உனை அண்டும் படி வந்தாய்
தண்டை ஒலி ஜதி தருமோ கமல பாதம் சதிரிடுமோ

He has delivered with such a clarity and precision and it will be unfair to him bad at tamil pronunication. For that matter, SPB had many slips all the way which went a little unnoticed (Susheela and PBS had their fair share too).

SPB had difficulty in pronuncing "ள" properly. Example - mangaiyrail magaraa"ni", in nallathOr veeNai - "vaalnthida puriguvaiyO". But these errors have gone largely unnoticed. It will only be good that these wonderful artists not be chastised for these any more since they really learnt the language as they grew and delivered with clarity as they grew in stature unlike the current vEdhana sargam or udit who have absolutely no idea what they are singing. Shreya has a much more acceptable pronunication than the above two.

Let me know what you think about my rendition.

48 comments:

  1. wow.. that was amazing... i think intha paatu paada.. u need goood breath control too... neenga atha superaa control panni irukeenga... total control of the entire song..

    a very nice rendition... :)

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  2. Awesome !!

    that was a bountiful treat.. very well sung... beautiful control of the raagam, taalam and the tempo. Amazing natural crystal clear voice..that was the best part to me. I could hear the depth and the perfect feel and bass in the voice. :)

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  3. nice performance.. anyways.. nothing like the one u sent me on email.... try to post it online soon
    tata
    sukku

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  4. WOW what must i say....I ain't re-inventin the wheel !!

    You are a gifted man ! WAY 2 GO !!

    BLESSES WITH GOOD LOOKS, Grey matter that works like the big time, and the gift of music to top it all. I am sure you will make it real big someday, sooner than you think you would.. Keep up the good work. I'll wish you GOODLUCK as always dude ! Look forward to more audioposts !!


    STANDIN OVATION !!! YOU'RE DA MAN !!

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  5. First about your rendition - Fantastic efforts - Couldn't see any slip anywhere including pronunciation.! Wonderful song selection too, very challenging as you've written.

    KJY - Yes, he did have a few problems occasionaly, but his voice just smoothed them out, IMHO. Tamil not being his mother tongue, singing such songs would have certainly been a challenge. But, He certainly cameout with flying colors.

    SPB - Until you mentioned this, I didn't know about his slips.!!

    Shreya/Sonu etc. They suck big time with prononciation.!! Sometimes I wonder why the MD's allow them to sing like that.!!

    That said, Chitra was superb I thought though she was from Kerala and even Unni Menon, Jayachandran for that matter.!

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  6. That shouda read "BLESSED WITH GOOD LOOKS" .....ALL THUMBS TODAY @#%^&@#

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  7. Speaking of pronunication ;
    Here is classic tongue twister. KJY's carnatic training must have helped him in a lot in this speed recitals.

    http://www.malayalavedhi.com/Music/Music.php?q=f&f=%2FMappiLa____PaattukaL%2FMyLanji_PaattukaL

    "Sankrutha Pamagari"

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  9. MS this is one of the toughest song composed by IR and awesome rendition by Sri KJY.
    There are lot of gamakas,aagaram on top set to chapu tala.
    And Ragam is gowla.
    One of famous carnatic song is 'Pranamamyagam Gowri Sudham'

    its not easy to sing and you have done a good job.

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  10. Hi,

    Your voice is fantastic.

    I am a great fan of SPB. I do sing at TNCSC(Tamilnadu cultural society of Canada) functions in Toronto. I love to sing SPB songs and I enjoy being on stange.I sing only with Kareoke, there is no music band for us. Its really difficult to sing with kareoke, even small miss shows very bad on stage. I try my best to make it look good.

    I never leart music.( ellam kelvi najam than). I will try and post it in my blog.

    Catch up with you some time.

    Yogi Selliah

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  11. anand:

    yes. breath control imp. kadaisila "kuzaladhu sriyudhu sariyudhu.."...vE / dham nee" nu paadirukkEn dham pidikka mudiyaama :)

    nyns:

    classical paadumpothu copy adichchu paada mudiyaathu usually :)

    sukanya:

    surprised! coz it is the same file at a lower quality encoding !

    bluebyrd:

    ayyo..avLo dhooraththukku illeengaNNa :) BTW, where are your songs ? your page is "BLANK"

    Venkitu:

    SPB aaramba kaalaththula neraya thappu paNNi irukkar thamizla. mazalaiyaaga ninaiththu mannikka vENdum adhai :)

    Prem:

    Both the links dont work.

    ganesh:

    konjam thiNara vEndi irundhadhu uNmai dhaan. vandha varai laabam :)

    yogi:

    Sure. please put them on and we will be glad to listen to you.

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  12. Superb singing Murali. Listening it for the first time, and its really a tough one to sing. You sing fast semi-classical songs very efficiently. Awesome buddy.

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  13. Sorry i deleted my previous blog in a mad fit and half dazed one mornin....i created a new one....here it is >>
    http://bluesydreamz.blogspot.com/

    Have'nt had time to put up anything...hmm it sure is blank right now....but will fill up soon...bear with me !

    Thanks a zillion for blogrollin me :)

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  14. Anonymous7:25 AM

    Just a query. I hope Murali will allow me to pass this through!

    Yogi Selliah,

    Are you the one who did BE at RECT between 1990 to 1994?

    Cheers,
    Suresh

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  15. Hey Murali..this is one of my favourite song..rombo kastamana pattu..

    U have done a great job...

    Hey R u from RECT I was there from 1999-2003

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  16. Prem:

    innum work aagalai :)

    Jo - thanks. I am yet to listen to your composition.

    Kavya:

    No, I am not from RECT. I am from CECRI.

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  17. Friends:

    Please bear with me for the comments moderation. There were some nasty posts in one of my blogs and I had no other way to keep this place clean.

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  18. Suresh,

    Yes, I am from RECT 1990-1994 BATCH.

    Do I know you???

    Real Surprise.

    Please send me an email ysee1971@yahoo.com

    Yogi

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  19. Murali:

    Tough song, but as always, you did a good job. Your voice reminds me a singer, Mano. Have you thought of karaoke? I think that would be awesome. Can you sing a song using Karaoke?

    Nalini.

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  20. Nalini:

    Thanks. I have sung some with karaoke. check these out:

    (1)Nilave vaa - http://swara.blogspot.com/2005/09/audio-post-nilaave-vaa-try-with.html
    (2) Sangeethame - http://swara.blogspot.com/2005/09/audio-post-sangeethame-try-with.html
    (3)Pramadhavanam - http://swara.blogspot.com/2005/09/audio-post-pramadhavanam-karaoke.html

    All of my songs can be accessed here:

    http://swara.blogspot.com/2005/09/my-audio-posts.html

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  21. Murali,I find no words to appreciate your talents..
    Amazing !!Awesome performance !!

    Best wishes ever,
    Prabhu

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  22. Anonymous2:33 PM

    It was nice to hear it! You have done a great job, as always!
    BTW, do you also have the song from the same film, 'amudhE, thamizhE, azhagiya mozhiyE, enadhuyirE'?
    If yes, pl. post the lyrics. Thanks.

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  23. Murali:
    Neenga romba chamathu. I cant believe that you would respond so quick and with the links too. It only shows that you are a true artiste.
    Thanks,
    Nalini.
    ps: I am planning to listen your karaoke songs now.

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  24. Murali:
    Wowwwww, Nilave Vaa song is awesome. Can you come to upstate NY to bless tamil fans with your performance?
    Nalini.

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  25. Murali:
    Ippo "Sangeethame" paatu ketundrukken actuall aa. Romba nannaa irrukku. Neenga paatu kathundela? I mean chinna vayasula probably little carnatic training maybe.
    Nalini.

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  26. Nalini:

    Newyork la Edhaavadhu sangam koopta definite aa vandhu paadarEn :) illai. kaththukkalai. ellaam kELvi gnaanam dhaan pretty much.

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  27. SK:

    Thanks. the lyric smust be available in dhool.com. check there. There are thousands of lyrics.

    Prabhu:

    Thanks. unga car kadhai padichchu azaradha sirikkaradhannu theriyalai. apdi oru emotion koNdu vandhu irukkeenga :)

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  28. Murali - Sorry, I was able to click on the link "This should work" and it took me to the song page. I tried both on IE and firefox and seem to work.

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  29. Murali:
    Neenga ungaloda email kudhuthelna, I can check with you about the availability, times, charges and all. Kudukarela? Actually, we have an association where local artistes, i.e those not from India directly, are invited, and appreciated of their talents and ofcourse remunerated too. I can contact them once I get more information so that I can put before the committee before the next concert season begins. Sangathula both carnatic, classic, western, cine ellam variety mix try panraa...Unga concert nichayama periya hit aagum. No doubt.
    Nalini.

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  30. Anonymous5:16 PM

    Others have already said it - but I cant help it. Excellent !

    I have no idea what your current profession is, but you better get your ass down here and start recording.

    Many times a bad pronunciation actually does wonders for the song.

    - From Chennai

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  31. Murali,

    You should try all the old songs of SPB and post it in ur blog. That will be amazing.

    I have also added few pictures from TNCSC functions in my blog. Check it out.

    I will try and put the songs this weekend.

    Yogi

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  32. Nalini:

    thanks. You can reach me at:
    andholanam at yahoo.com

    Vivek:

    Madrasla talentukku panjamE kidaiyadhu. pOi try paNNinaalum chance kidiakkaradhu romba kashtam.

    Yogi:

    Thanks for writing about me in your blog. Looking forward to your songs.

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  33. Anonymous9:40 AM

    Hello, Murali. Awesome singing! I stumbled on your blog by accident and our family has heard your Vedam Nee a dozen times!

    I guess you are in SC. Would love to meet you and hear your singing in person! We are in Greensboro, NC. We are die hard Dassettan fans and were fortunate to attend his kutcheri in Raleigh few months ago.

    My husband is an wonderful (though very shy) singer and he needs a lot of coaxing. I am made a modest attempt to record and share

    Santu Sings

    Take care!
    -Mini

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  34. Dear mini,

    thanks. It will be really nice if we get to meet for a music session. Let us see if we can do that in the future. Santhosh sings very well ! Beautiful bassy voice! Very nice to meet another singer here. Since you have put an ayyappan song, I am inspired to sing one and share with you here. I will probably choose one from the album "gangayaaru" and put here.

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  35. Anonymous7:37 PM

    Really class Murali. You have used your own style of singing, not having influenced of KJY's singing style. Esp, the line iLaya thendral kaatrinile iniya sandha pattinile. However you maintained the quality of song's melody as we enjoy in the original.

    Do you a thought on attempting Nilave ennidam nerungaadhe sung by PB Srinivas. Very nice song.

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  36. Anonymous7:44 PM

    I was wonder-stuck while listening to Mini's husband Santhosh's song. It is almost like KJY's voice. Mini, he must try giving an album of his own. May be Murali can extend his arm. Who knows... it will click like anything. All the very best.

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  37. Thanks Swami. will try nilave ennidam nerungaadhe in the future.

    I will see how santhosh and I can work together.

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  38. wonderful...simply superb...

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  39. Murali..Awesome man! I thoroughly enjoyed the track.

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  40. Anonymous6:43 PM

    Hi murali,

    i hav few corrections in d lyrics u've posted it is
    First... it is nilavum nee kadhirum nee not pagalum nee
    Second....
    malayum kadalum "ADIyun" vadive not ariyum

    And...i have one request can u upload another song from this same film
    Song - Amudhae Thamizhe
    Singers - P. Susheela,Uma Ramanan

    I've been looking for this song for a long time.

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  41. Anonymous3:16 AM

    Murali:
    I just got to your blog through googling for a song by Jayachandran. You have done a great job in all of your audio & other posts..please keep it up. I am also a carnatic music fanatic (however I like lighter versions of the carnatic/hindustaani raagas) and am now learning with a small keyboard. Your Motif post has inspired me to go back and complete a small tune I am composing in Amrutavarshini.
    Please keep blogging and I will be anxiously waiting for your posts...
    Cheers,
    Krishnakumar

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  42. Anonymous3:21 AM

    Murali:
    KK here again. Did I mention that two of your malayalam posts (me-am a mallu)pramadavanam & sangeethame were fantastic. Hey how did you manage to pronounce malayalam so accurately? The sangeethame song was a craze in gaanamelas in our colleges as the troupes used to showcase their star singer on that one. As for pramadavanam, usually noone dares to even attempt that song as it is hard (esp in a music function-situation) to keep the sruthi & the calmness in the severe noise at a function. I should say this is the first time I am satisfied with another version of the song. You have sung it to the best possible level...good talent...keep it up.
    Cheers,
    KK

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  43. Anonymous5:42 PM

    I chanced upon your blog. (This blog thing is rather new to me) The name manappathivu gives a very claming effect to the manasu.

    The song you rendered 'vedham ...' is really quite amazing. really don't understand half of it but it seems like it was sang with so much of sincerity.

    Thank you and wishing you all the best.

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  44. Anonymous10:52 AM

    vedham nee engira padali kekkanumpola irunthathu "raaga & musicindiaonline.com" siteleum search pani kedekille. google le poi parthathile unnga sitele neega padia padal kedachadhu. enjoy panni kettom. rombha nalla irunthadu.neeveer valga valarga. nadri by nagarajan kovai, tamilnadu.

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  45. Anonymous:

    Thanks a lot for the corrections !
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    Krishnakumar:

    Thanks for dropping by. PLease share your song in Amrutavarshini here. Will be more than happy to listen to a fellow composer's creation.

    I usually work on the diction of the languages that I sing in. I can understand malayalam to a good extent too. As far as pramadhavanam is concerned, there are a few mistakes that I have done, but thankfully they are not as blatant as I understadn from the feedback.

    Sangeethame - I got this track from kansas raja. Since I do not have a formal background, I pretty much taught myself all the swara sthanams using Yesudas' semi classical mallu songs. Sangeethame was just an audacious attempt which thankfully did not turn out intolerable :)

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    nala nantha:

    though it is classical it is actually a romance song :) Thanks for stopping by.

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    nagarajan - neenga sonna apram dhaan naan google la "vEdham nee" apdinnu type paNNi paarththEn. I am surprised to see my blog being pulled up first in the search results ! Thanks for your time here.

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  46. Anonymous12:10 AM

    Dear Murali,

    great comments on your blog. I have been trying to get the lyrics for Vedam Nee (IN ENGLISH) - do you have them? or do you know where I can get them?

    Sorry, I meant to add that I need these lyrics in English for a dance performance. Thanks!
    Thanks,
    Essen
    sarasnara@gmail.com

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